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Re: Forum drama
by enginineerer Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:29 pm
you brought this upon yourselfRTCity wrote:forum drama thread turns into forum drama
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Re: Forum drama
by L_Clan Ruso Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:33 pm
btw rtcity, thanks for dinner. I was quite famished.RTCity wrote:forum drama thread turns into forum drama
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Re: Forum drama
by Queen Kghyilda Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:52 am
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Re: Forum drama
by dogman is stupid Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:24 am
amazingRTCity wrote:http://josefvstalin.com/media/offical-update.537/
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Re: Forum drama
by dogman is stupid Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:27 am
this reminds me of rd so muchRTCity wrote:http://josefvstalin.com/media/offical-update.537/
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Re: Forum drama
by Queen Kghyilda Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:38 am
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Re: Forum drama
by dogman is stupid Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:13 pm
lolDead wrote:Now who does this remind us of.
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Re: Forum drama
by Queen Kghyilda Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:15 am
"I'm going to lay out a long and detailed explanation of the events here. Hopefully Koba/Chives/Stalin will find it in their hearts not to delete it savagely.
Forum drama has existed since the forum itself began. Though this is to be expected with any forum really. So long as there are 2 people on the planet someone is going to what someone else dead. This extends to the internet as well.
Stalin attempted to see why this problem happened. To the best of his ability he determined that it was because he gave forum-members to much say in the forum's affairs. Have to keep that peasant rabble in line, you know?
So he passed the Happiness and Smiles Act and gave the majority of the sites affairs to himself. Somehow he forgot to remember that giving yourself responsibility over something meant you had to deal with it and kinda sorta got overwhelmed.
So things skimmed along pretty ok-ish with a few minor blemishes. Then came Koba. Koba was brought to the forums by Chives from her previous forum in Stormfront. But let's not go into details about that because I honestly don't want to see this comment deleted.
So Koba began doing stuff like the All-Nighters and gained modship in basically 3 weeks time. As did Chives, somehow. Chives especially wasn't very responsible with it and used it to mess with people. I believe it was Chives (though it may have been Koba) who banned an unknown member from the site unlawfully.
Chelsea and Lucy stood up for the member, unbanning him/her and making a case in the Mod's Corner. They supposedly won but it was a Pyrrhic Victory as Stalin (through various means) got Chelsea and Lucy out of modship status.
From there Koba began to enter a serious relationship with Stalin and many critics suspect cause him to turn a blind eye to the stuff she was doing. For instance she unbanned Napoleon (after asking Stalin's permission first) and then banned Alex Tran again.
Now Alex Tran was an interesting case. When Stalin left to go visit with Koba he left Pedro in charge. Pedro believed that Alex Tran deserved another chance and said he'd let him return under strict rules. Alex Tran broke none of them, but Koba banned him anyway (with Stalin's permission, of course).
Later Stalin said Pedro had overstepped the line of his temporary leadership, but many critics say he was just defending Koba's actions.
Anyway, after doing all this a large base of the membership began to resent Koba. People said she was seeming arbitrary in her judgement and "if any mod had done a tenth of what she did they would've been removed in an instant" and such things as that. Whether or not they were right is for the reader to decide. Either way it happened and eventually summed up in two different camps.
One camp was seemingly under the influence of Kali and his friends (I honestly don't know how it happened, ask Kali yourself). I will talk about them later.
The other camp was largely open and democratic in its ways. It elected Sandro and Lucy to talk with Stalin. Which they did and led to an inconclusive, peaceful talk.
Now Kali and friends did some digging and uncovered a lot of past history on Koba. I wont go into detail about it because, again, I'd very much like this comment to exist. But either way it (supposedly, this claim was never backed up though I don't know how it would be) put Koba's life at risk and by extension the life of her son's. As well some people from Kali and friends sent a few death threats, but from what I heard personally it was more "I hope you leave and never come back" than it was "I hope the Dark Lord Satan disembodies your limbs and then makes you eat them in the form of hamburgers while he feasts upon your heart and soul." Though I wouldn't quote myself on that, it's not a certainty.
Then Epiccheesegrater and Tyum2 posted like 6 images of porn in the State of Emergency (no relevance to the situation on the forums, sadly) and got permabanned for it. Shit hit the fan after that and posting was disabled and a conference on Skype was held and shit. Things looked like they would be alright but then Koba came on and started talking about how her life was now at risk (none of us knew how because it was personal stuff, the stuff I previously mentioned I heard from Kali) and screamed for Andreas to be booted when he started talking.
From there things got worse purely because of hype and paranoia and then Stalin made his videos. It was hoped that Stalin would give the xenforo (the basis of the forums) to Unillogical and that Uni would somehow rebuild the community, but Stalin decided he'd rather see the forum gone than saved.
And there you have it. The entire history of events for the most part. There's more details (even besides the personal stuff) that I wont go into here. But if you'd like I can add you to our Skype calls and maybe someone will explain the rest to you."
Forum drama has existed since the forum itself began. Though this is to be expected with any forum really. So long as there are 2 people on the planet someone is going to what someone else dead. This extends to the internet as well.
Stalin attempted to see why this problem happened. To the best of his ability he determined that it was because he gave forum-members to much say in the forum's affairs. Have to keep that peasant rabble in line, you know?
So he passed the Happiness and Smiles Act and gave the majority of the sites affairs to himself. Somehow he forgot to remember that giving yourself responsibility over something meant you had to deal with it and kinda sorta got overwhelmed.
So things skimmed along pretty ok-ish with a few minor blemishes. Then came Koba. Koba was brought to the forums by Chives from her previous forum in Stormfront. But let's not go into details about that because I honestly don't want to see this comment deleted.
So Koba began doing stuff like the All-Nighters and gained modship in basically 3 weeks time. As did Chives, somehow. Chives especially wasn't very responsible with it and used it to mess with people. I believe it was Chives (though it may have been Koba) who banned an unknown member from the site unlawfully.
Chelsea and Lucy stood up for the member, unbanning him/her and making a case in the Mod's Corner. They supposedly won but it was a Pyrrhic Victory as Stalin (through various means) got Chelsea and Lucy out of modship status.
From there Koba began to enter a serious relationship with Stalin and many critics suspect cause him to turn a blind eye to the stuff she was doing. For instance she unbanned Napoleon (after asking Stalin's permission first) and then banned Alex Tran again.
Now Alex Tran was an interesting case. When Stalin left to go visit with Koba he left Pedro in charge. Pedro believed that Alex Tran deserved another chance and said he'd let him return under strict rules. Alex Tran broke none of them, but Koba banned him anyway (with Stalin's permission, of course).
Later Stalin said Pedro had overstepped the line of his temporary leadership, but many critics say he was just defending Koba's actions.
Anyway, after doing all this a large base of the membership began to resent Koba. People said she was seeming arbitrary in her judgement and "if any mod had done a tenth of what she did they would've been removed in an instant" and such things as that. Whether or not they were right is for the reader to decide. Either way it happened and eventually summed up in two different camps.
One camp was seemingly under the influence of Kali and his friends (I honestly don't know how it happened, ask Kali yourself). I will talk about them later.
The other camp was largely open and democratic in its ways. It elected Sandro and Lucy to talk with Stalin. Which they did and led to an inconclusive, peaceful talk.
Now Kali and friends did some digging and uncovered a lot of past history on Koba. I wont go into detail about it because, again, I'd very much like this comment to exist. But either way it (supposedly, this claim was never backed up though I don't know how it would be) put Koba's life at risk and by extension the life of her son's. As well some people from Kali and friends sent a few death threats, but from what I heard personally it was more "I hope you leave and never come back" than it was "I hope the Dark Lord Satan disembodies your limbs and then makes you eat them in the form of hamburgers while he feasts upon your heart and soul." Though I wouldn't quote myself on that, it's not a certainty.
Then Epiccheesegrater and Tyum2 posted like 6 images of porn in the State of Emergency (no relevance to the situation on the forums, sadly) and got permabanned for it. Shit hit the fan after that and posting was disabled and a conference on Skype was held and shit. Things looked like they would be alright but then Koba came on and started talking about how her life was now at risk (none of us knew how because it was personal stuff, the stuff I previously mentioned I heard from Kali) and screamed for Andreas to be booted when he started talking.
From there things got worse purely because of hype and paranoia and then Stalin made his videos. It was hoped that Stalin would give the xenforo (the basis of the forums) to Unillogical and that Uni would somehow rebuild the community, but Stalin decided he'd rather see the forum gone than saved.
And there you have it. The entire history of events for the most part. There's more details (even besides the personal stuff) that I wont go into here. But if you'd like I can add you to our Skype calls and maybe someone will explain the rest to you."
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Re: Forum drama
by Queen Kghyilda Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:24 am
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- "Well I would express my sentiment, but I think I did that well enough in stalins other announcement video.
I will say this though: we were always there for you. When your ex broke up with you and like benefre said, you asked us to help you in getting your beloved cat back, we tried as best we could to help you almost immediately. Heck, when you planned on creating this very sight in the wake of the youtube copyright problems. you were met with overwhelming support-Most of it by the members who are active on this site now, and who had faithfully served you and the forums as moderators and site designers. If we didnt care about you, we would have never done anything of those things. ANd it was because we cared about you, that some of us looked into kobas background (although some did take it way too far).
You didnt have to destroy the forums. All you had to do was give control of it to somebody else. You would be rid of all your troubles. We wouldnt be trying to be "destructive" and "ruin your relationship". Because we care (or for some, cared) about you and want you to be happy. If not having to moderate and manage the forums makes you happy, then great. Just pass it on to someone else. Dont crush the happiness of others (who some have mentioned in the previous video, their only source of joy was from these very forums) just to make a point.
For someone who claims to look at life from a utilitarian viewpoint of doing things that brings happiness to the most amount of people, this goes against those very beliefs you claim to hold. You are destroying the happiness of others for the happiness of yourself, at a time when you can easily do the thing that makes the most amount of people happy, including yourself, by handing control of the forums to somebody else. In this way, you rid yourself of the burden of the forums, while everyone else keeps the happiness of and joy the forums bring to them.
Also, to any member of the nkvdchannel, I forgot the password and have some Crusader Kings 2 videos i need to upload. (yes i am a member of the channel, just cant remember the password). If anyone knows what it is, tell me on steam: slydessertfox .
Thank you all for the glorious times, and all the laughs and enjoyment these forums have given me. At a time when I was feeling like the happiest moments of my life were already behind me, this community proved me wrong. Now I feel like again, the happiest moments of my youth are certainly behind me, as the thing that gave me most of the joy I have possessed for the last year and a half of my life, is now gone.
I encourage you all to post your steam and skype names so we can all stay in contact until the new forums is created."
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- "I think sly has said most of the necessary things, but I would like to elaborate the points we, the people, were trying to make
We have. Never, and I repeat, NEVER asked you to dump you're GF, we asked for a separation between relationship and forum, that fateful night we asked you to demote kobashenka as a moderator,because she was, by all standards the most incompetent moderator possible, and it doesn't take an idiot to see that, hell even Kali and Ler united on this issue.
In essence: you are acting selfish, scared and like a child, I had expected more from you.
And while it is true that this is your site and you are permitted to do whatever you want you should think of users,just for fucking once.
And... Since No one else is gonna say it: we were right about your last girlfriend, you would be stupid to ignore us now, I've dealt with this kind of shit a thousand times, and a thousand times I've been right, yet no one listens"
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- "Stalin you know you attracted some very unique people to you and you would just cut them off like this...
A dedicated fanbase was over zealously loyal to you, anything you said was taken as a divine message.
I remember when you would do personal videos especially about the relationships in the past and you know..we were always there for you. When the JSV mascot (your cat)was stolen, you pretty much ordered us to demand the cat back from that ex, we followed that order in an instant.
These forums were the only thing I looked forward too, while you got good grades and focused in school many of us would rather let their grades plummet JUST to be here. I am one of those unfortunate people.
I blame you for having a cult of personality no one can say no to, these actions have completely gone against YOUR PEOPLE, while we were simply defending you from the unknown.
So you will continue upload your glorious videos of LPs and such, but you know what. Know that you will only be uploading to mindless subscribers that can't call themselves fans of you.
When you are ready to come back to us, we will hopefully all be there."
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- "I can entirely blame you. You could easily give the xenforo-whatever to Uni or whatever and solve the problem. Hell, you could give it to Chives. A slightly better fate than death for the forums. And you know, you could leave whenever you wanted. It's not like we've shackled you to the forum and forced you to come. People have largely even suggested that you should take a break, and even that most of the forum's responsibilities should be lifted off your shoulders. You turned them all down on your own accord for various reasons.
And for the most part this video is just saying we're mostly just terrible people who are Hell bent on causing suffering and destroying your life. I feel like you might be too convinced yourself.
I'd go into detail, but odds are that this comment will be deleted. I wouldn't be surprised. There are far too few complaints for this to be the actual response to the video. And I pity the fool who thinks it is.
As a message to the general public, we're attempting to rebuild the ruins of a community Stalin has left us with."
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- "Can't you let someone else moderate the forums or something. I don't want it to disappear just like that. Damn it I've been here too long to let this end!
I agree that it was the happiness and smiles act that caused this. That and from what I've heard Koba was also a factor.
If only we could turn back the clock and have all the champions of the forum back. Like the good old days where the worst thing that happened was Che wishing death on people or Kalification being an ass. Back when Chelsea and Lucy were around. Back before all this shit happened.
I miss those days, the good old days. I have been on these forums since day one and I'm sad to see it go.
I won't ever forget you for as long as I live. I hope me meet again. Do not cry for the forum shall live on in our hearts. Leave with your heads held high. For one day we shall have our forum back when the taint has been purged, but if that's not to be then so be it.
Goodbye comrades. It was a hell of a ride. Long Live the Dutch! Long Live Queen Chelsea! And Death to the False Emperor!"
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- "I love how 95% of the people who liked this and support you have no fucking clue what is going on but just blindly follow you in his videos... I have lost alot of faith In you stalin, sometimes you were my rolemodel, as sad as it sounds that a guy hundreds of miles away from me, that I have only talked to a few times, on the internet is my rolemodel. It is true.
1) No one really cared about your realationship with Koba during all of this. That is not even the issue.
2) I have no clue who sent her death threats and from the people I have talked to, they had not have heard of it until this video.
3) People give a shit about you stalin... We like you... some of us not as much now. We just didnt want Koba to be a moderator because nothing good came out of her being a mod.
4) 8 people perma-banned.... during the shit storm which I was involved in, I only saw 2 people do anything bannable, which was post porn, and TheShaw got away with it...
Your breaking your own rules stalin, even before Koba came along... Remember back when Toast was banned? I am not saying he should have stayed, but you said we cant pick favorites when it comes to people being banned. Now I got nothing against theShaw, infact he is a cool guy, but all the moderators agreed to a Perma-Ban and you picked favorites and gave him a 1 month ban. And Napoleon too. I mean he was permantly banned for making shit tons of mult's while Alex Tran obviously got banned because Koba wanted him to....
I have lost alot of faith in you... I hope this improves.... IF you 2 break up ( which you proably will because... well your 21 and your already becoming a step-dad I guess and most realationships do end on a sad note. ) and you think it was her fault for the site like most of us do. Dont expect all of us to forgive you...
I am sorry that we could not be good friends stalin... I truely am.."
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Re: Forum drama
by antneecb Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:34 am
Randy wrote:fuzzeedice wrote:tldrRTCity wrote:words
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Re: Forum drama
by Queen Kghyilda Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:49 pm
http://vocaroo.com/i/s046S3JONw26
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Re: Forum drama
by Queen Kghyilda Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:47 am
it'll be really unfortunate when the owner gets dumped by his new girlfriend
because it's happened before, but this time he'll have nobody to comfort him because everyone who comforted him last time left
because it's happened before, but this time he'll have nobody to comfort him because everyone who comforted him last time left
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Re: Forum drama
by dogman is stupid Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:55 am
he did act like a retard.RTCity wrote:it'll be really unfortunate when the owner gets dumped by his new girlfriend
because it's happened before, but this time he'll have nobody to comfort him because everyone who comforted him last time left
he deserved everything he got.
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Re: Forum drama
by Queen Kghyilda Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:58 am
i know[REDACTED] wrote:he did act like a retard.RTCity wrote:it'll be really unfortunate when the owner gets dumped by his new girlfriend
because it's happened before, but this time he'll have nobody to comfort him because everyone who comforted him last time left
he deserved everything he got.
it's just kind of hard seeing a guy i've enjoyed watching for three years completely destroy everything just for a love that was never meant to be
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Re: Forum drama
by Queen Kghyilda Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:18 pm
glorious new fora
http://unillogical.com/forums/index.php
http://unillogical.com/forums/index.php
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